Potholes, road conditions

[TomBellucco]

Potholes are one thing but have you seen how bad some of the major roads are? There's literally stretches of 104, where the road meets the shoulder, where the road surface is gone. It looks like the seams were hit pretty hard because other parts of 104 are destroyed where there should be road stripes, between the 2 lanes. It almost looks like the striping ate through the road!! On and off ramps are in rough shape too. I hope with the nicer weather over the next few days the trucks are out to patch.

[Felix]

Potholes are a perennial problem but it does seem to be worse this year.

Another thought on this matter. We can spend 250 MILLION dollars on a pipe dram called fast rail so the few people that travel back and forth to Albany can get there 1/2 hour faster but we don't have money to fix the existing infrastructure - roads and bridges, without raising taxes. Does this make sense to anyone?

[brandon]

Felix,
Maybe it's another one of those "calculations" that somehow saves us money in the end.

[XPS410]

104 needs more than patching. 104 needs to be totally repaved. Period.

[leadfoot4]

Potholes are a perennial problem but it does seem to be worse this year.

Another thought on this matter. We can spend 250 MILLION dollars on a pipe dram called fast rail so the few people that travel back and forth to Albany can get there 1/2 hour faster but we don't have money to fix the existing infrastructure - roads and bridges, without raising taxes. Does this make sense to anyone?

Along that line, I hope that the Obama Health Care bill, for several TRILLION dollars, has provisions for dental care. You hit a couple of those potholes on 104, and they'll knock a few fillings out!!



And NO, Felix, NONE of it, makes any sense to me!!!!

[damian]

It's a state route, isn't it the state's responsiblity to fix 104 more so than the federal government. Kind of sucks they fixed 590 last year and didn't do 104 too.

[Felix]

You are correct - it is a state road and it is the states responsibility to fix it - that is why our gas taxes are so high - supposedto be used to fix the roads and bridges.

But, in this case,the federal government is giving NYS 250 million stimulous dollars for development of high speed rail - another whole infrastructure that as far as I can see has no useful purpose. If the existing infrastructure is in disrepair, and it surly is, why not use that money to fix it rather than creating another one we can't maintain without raising taxes in the future.

[johngalt_blog]

104 needs more than patching. 104 needs to be totally repaved. Period.

Oh, come on. 104 couldn't possibly need repaving! I mean, they just repaved it 3 or 4 years ago. There is NO WAY the state would do such a bad repaving job on a major highway that it would need repaving every 3 or 4 years!

Ok, sarcasm aside, I hope Cuomo or somebody can sue the last contractor that did that CRAPPY re-pave job on 104. It is simply horrendous. There are almost more spots where they 'missed' than actual new pavement. It is really a disgrace and embarrasing. I found the name of the company a few years ago, but lost it. They developed some new-fangled method of re-paving roads with a super-thin coat, that supposidly cost less, but look at the results.

I'm sure that company (based somewhere in the southerntier) does not use pictures of 104 to show prospective customers!

[Felix]

XPS410 - they didn't miss it - it didn't stick!

[XPS410]

I was just reminded of just how bad 104 is. We had to go to Sodus today for the son's road test (he passed), and 104 from here (Bay Rd.) to County Line Rd. is in deplorable shape. Both directions. Absolutely the worst that I have ever seen it. The state had better be planning on a total resurface by a reputable company this year because a patch job is not going to make it any better. Certainly there must be some of Obama's stimulus money available to get this job done and do it right this time.

[Felix]

"Certainly there must be some of Obama's stimulus money available to get this job done and do it right this time."

No, as I stated earlier, we are using the stimulus money to build the start of a high speed rails system - all 250 MILLION dollars of it - another infrastructure we won't have the money to maintain.

I ask, does this make any sense?

[damian]

If I was the Federal government I wouldn't give two shits about what's happening a few miles outside of Rochester on some state highway. They might be more willing to fork over some money if we help ourselves by repairing it with local funds.

Instead of bitching on some random webboard, I'm going to write to my congressman. He has some say on money from the government.

[XPS410]

damian , first off, clean up your language on this board. Mods, please note...

Secondly, If you would do some research, you will find that federal funds cover a great deal of any road improvement project.

for example...The Jefferson Rd. project that is underway now..

Cost of the Project

The project cost is approximately $15,600,000.

This project receives funding from the following sources:
Federal: Yes
State : Yes
Local : Yes

Isn't Rt. 252 a state highway ?

Thirdly.. do you have any clue as to what a total repair, resurface of 104 from the Bay Bridge to County Line Rd. would cost ?

Well I don't either. But local funds are not going to cut it.

Felix's point is well taken. Put the money into already existing means of transportation (our crumbling Rt. 104 for example) before you develop a high speed railway that many will not use.

Fourthly, why should we contact our congressman (first off, we have no congressman right now) when you are saying that this should be done with local funds ???

[dogtired]

Fourthly, why should we contact our congressman (first off, we have no congressman right now) when you are saying that this should be done with local funds ???

just a correction, we (Webster) do have a congressman, 25th district - Dan Maffei
the 29th is vacant (does not include Webster)

[XPS410]

Fourthly, why should we contact our congressman (first off, we have no congressman right now) when you are saying that this should be done with local funds ???

just a correction, we (Webster) do have a congressman, 25th district - Dan Maffei
the 29th is vacant (does not include Webster)

Oh darn. I don't know what the heck I was thinking.. seriously. And yes, I did write to Maffei a couple weeks ago and told him that I had no use for him, so this is why I guess that I wrote that we have no congressman ... there is a body there, but he doesn't represent us.

Now then, never fear because I noticed after coming across the Bay bridge heading east today at 3:40 that a patching process is underway ! Joy, joy ! There is a strip of tar being layed down along the right shoulder of this decrepit highway. We are all set now, no need to repave any of this roadway. Yeah, right.